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A farang analyzes Thai girls and Western girls as if Thai girls are the brandname products on the market.
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What do you think?â´Â Merchandise [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:00:43 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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A. HONESTY. Also known as integrity. I don’t give high grades to either set of women for this category (gee, why the hell am I so cynical? Because of touching the fucking stove enough times, and watching others touch it, that’s why). In this category, I give the edge to the western woman. This is mostly due to Thai culture, it seeming that it is generally accepted for Thais to lie more so than it is in the West, especially when they are out to avoid losing face. This whole concept is really amazingly stupid, because when you catch them in the lie, they have lost even more face. Westerners generally value integrity to a higher degree than Thais, although admittedly they do not practice it the way they preach it. Yes, there are a lot of hypocrites in America. Still, I would give a higher grade to the western wench in this area.
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:05:05 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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B. LOOKS. This quality evaluates the overall appearance of the women, in general. Keep in mind that we’re talking generalities here. Of course there are some knockout western women and gruesome Thai ladies. On the whole, though, western women do not compare with Thai ladies (in my opinion). The vast majority of western women become “heffers” at quite a young age, and it’s all downhill from there. In fact, how many times have you seen a western woman slowly gain her “fighting weight” up until about age 35, and then begin to lose it? How about never? Same here. It doesn’t happen. It is common for women in America to continue to gain weight throughout most of their lives (and men, too, but I’m NOT interested in them). By the time they reach age 45 or so, they are usually about 180 sagging, lard-covered pounds. Watch out when you hit the hay with these jolly ladies. They could throw you, not to mention the injuries you could sustain by being impacted with an object that happens to be caught in the folds of their flesh during a heated session. Just last night I was out at a lounge, and was reminded of a sight which must be one of the most disturbing and gut-wrenching that a man can observe. It is the sight of an obese woman in feeding. This particular woman weighed at least twice as much as I did (no exaggeration here), yet was stuffing her face with enough lard to make me puke. She could have starved herself for a month, probably much more, and not die, feeding off her own lipid reserves. In fact, if I were her, I would hesitate to even go out in public until the situation was remedied. You think this is harsh? You think I should have more respect for her? Why should I have any more respect for a person than they have for themselves? (Keep in mind that these are just my opinions and I would never approach her with insults such as these.). On the other hand, the average Thai lady may gain some wrinkles, but to me, that is infinitely more acceptable than adding lard and cottage cheese-type cellulite to the issue. Thais also look young for their age, no matter how old they are. Their hygiene is also better. I guess it’s easier to keep yourself clean when there’s less of you to scrub. Sorry, but I don’t put mayo on my beef.
â´Â Source 2 [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:05:43 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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C. FEMININITY. Do I even need to write anything here? If you have read this site at all, or if you have any knowledge of Thai and western women, the Thai lady is bound to get the higher grade here, and by a landslide. In fact, I would give the Thai a “10” in this area. Thai ladies, to include bargirls, have an excellent sense of what it means to be a lady, which is sadly lacking in America. The words “take care of you” might as well be a foreign language to many western women, whereas the Thai lady seems to possess this quality as if it were innate and did not even have to be taught to her. Femininity is a large factor which explains the basis of the allure of the Asian woman to so many western guys. The long, dark, jet black hair; the smooth, silky, naturally tan skin; the curvaceous, firm, fit, yet thin and well proportioned body; the demure, friendly, inviting demeanor and attitude; the sweet smile that looks oh so natural on her pretty face; the subtly sexy, feminine walk; the pleasant scent like a bouquet of freshly picked petunias; and the beautiful, mesmerizing, and mysterious dark eyes that hypnotize. Not to mention the services they readily provide. In fact, Thai ladies are more feminine than many of us even expect them to be. For instance, I do not believe that it is a “woman’s duty” to clean the house, or cook, or even do my filthy laundry. In fact, I prefer that a woman is not treated and does not act like my personal slave. The relationship should be one with 2 people on equal footing. However, if you try telling that to a Thai lady, considering her likely perceptions of her “duties as a lady”, she’ll object and begin to think that something is amiss. To them, this is as much a part of being a lady and taking care of you as it is her responsibility to have sex/bear children. Most men, western or not, like to be spoiled by the niceties, personal servitude-wise, of the Thai woman. Their presence soothes the savage beast.
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:06:48 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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D. LOGIC. Go ahead and laugh at the scores, but can you dispute this? To a woman, logic is a foreign concept, as foreign as having a penis. Women are simply not cut out having this quality. God (or Buddha if you prefer) simply did not give it to them, but instead chose qualities like (hyper) sensitivity, (ill-placed) compassion, and other feminine qualities that you can think of. For instance, women are not cut out to be military strategists in general, or chess players, which both require a high degree of logic to master. Anyway, I would give a slight edge to the western woman for having twice as much logic (a whopping 2 to 1). This is one of the reasons that communication between men and women can be so challenging. The 2 genders simply have completely different ways of perceiving things. Remember the quote by Jack Nicholson in the movie "As Good As It Gets" when he was asked how he so accurately depicted the female characters in the books he wrote? His response: "I think of a man. Then I remove all reason and accountability."
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:07:40 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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E. TAKES CARE OF YOU. Aka “tender loving care”, the Asian lady more than doubles the score of the western lady in this area. If femininity is a large factor in the basis for the Asian woman’s advantage over the western woman, this quality could be the Number One reason for the Asian woman’s allure. It just seems that Thai ladies instinctively know what is important to a man, and they know how to treat a man. Admittedly, many men want their women to perform many menial tasks which today’s western woman is not willing to perform. Even for those men who do not expect performance of menial tasks (i.e., “Yo, honey, grab me a beer”), there are still many elements of “TLC” that place the Thai lady far and above the westerner. By acting the proper and traditional role of a female, their femininity is inspiring, thus making you feel more like the stud you should be. By being the way they are, they make you feel so much better about yourself, making you more comfortable by ensuring that you are provided with the little “creature comforts” like massages, and make you proud to show her off around town like a trophy (funny enough, there is a bar near San Diego that is frequented by almost entirely Asian women, hilariously called the “Trophy Lounge”). This was really demonstrated for me once when I had an Asian girlfriend a few years back during a period when I fell ill with a miserable flu bug. This saint of a woman did everything for me under the sun that you can imagine. She never left my side and ensured that my every need was attended to better than a nurse could manage, to include even turning me over and wiping me down as I sweated profusely at night with a high fever, even though that meant that she needed to stay awake to do it, and go to work the next day! What self-sacrifice! This woman used to rub my back for an hour each and every night just to put my sorry ass to sleep. This is not an isolated instance. I can honestly say that she cared for me better than a mother does for her child. Everything from wiping my sweaty body due to fever, cooking and bringing me the food, bringing me liquids to pound, watching over me and my symptoms, etc. It did not even seem to occur to her that she was in danger of catching what I had. In my “Thai Journal II” here in the Readers’ Submissions, there is another fine example of how Thai ladies take care of you: an example of a bargirl who attended me one night when I fell ill. That lady is a saint and did things for me that my own Mother never did. I’m sorry, but this kind of thing is a foreign concept to today’s western women. They are overly preoccupied with themselves, their careers, their mind games that they like to play to gain the upper hand in the relationship, and the mindset “What have you done for me lately?” The Thai lady’s entire attitude and treatment can probably even extend your lifespan as far as I’m concerned. In my experience, a Thai lady is less likely to challenge you on each and every minute detail of daily existence, whereas the western woman desires power in the relationship so that she can control you, with many of the most evil ones going about acquiring it in mischievous ways. You might construe this to mean that this only matters for men who want it “my way or the highway”. You may actually be correct, but when we’re talking about petty disputes over meaningless, trifling issues, it becomes irritating after a while with all the constant bickering over minutiae. While there are always exceptions, your average Thai lady is more laid back and simply “enjoys the ride”, and takes it for what it is, happy to be alive and that the sun rose again in the East. Western men who are with Thai ladies should consequently realize that they have a good thing, treasure it, and not take unfair advantage of it. Treat her like a lady, and she will continue to be a lady. One possible reason that some Thai ladies can turn sour is because many fat, lazy western falangs become sedate in such a relationship and begin to take their lady for granted. Taking your lover for granted is the beginning of the end. Treat her as if every precious day you spend with her might be your last, because it might.
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:08:15 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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F. INTELLIGENCE. As with logic, women were made differently from men and it is a scientific fact that they predominantly use a different side of the brain than men do (I think it is women that use the right side more than men, while men use the left). Well, this shows through when you evaluate the quality of intelligence. While I believe that women can be more perceptive than men in some ways (for instance, I believe that they are able to pick up subtle vibes about people, through casual observation, that can elude most men, who can be like bulls in a china store), the type of intelligence I’m talking about here is the analytical/problem solving variant. For those men whose “requirements list” has intelligence near the top and therefore highly value this quality, I believe that the western women hold an edge here, possibly because of the higher level of education that most western women have over Thai ladies. What leads me to believe that this is true is that if you bring a Thai lady into the U.S. and westernize her, or even more especially for the ones that are born here, in many cases she begins to even out-perform the westerner. Whatever the case, however, I believe that western women possess more intelligence of the analytical type, which is useful for solving problems that arise, and thinking on her feet. If you include financial responsibility in this category, as you probably should, the advantage becomes more apparent. Thais of both genders live their lives in a much more day-to-day fashion than westerners and consequently do far less planning. Maybe if they planned a little better, they would not need their children to support them in their later years. But hey, who the hell am I (the “ugly American”) to question their culture?
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:08:51 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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G. MOTHER. This quality rates the women on their mothering skills. It’s a bit difficult nowadays to rate western women in this particular category because many of them who are mothers do not practice this skill anymore. All too often, western women today put career ahead of family life, and the poor children are left in day care centers all day long during the week while Mommy and Daddy go out and rake in the cash. My personal preference is for the woman to assume the traditional role and remain home with the children, as they did in the U.S. prior to maybe about the year 1960 (I was not around personally to observe this). The lack of either parent to stay with the child nowadays is probably responsible for many of the bad qualities (i.e., lack of discipline, disrespectfulness, sloth, lack of focus, indulgence in drugs, etc.) that are beginning to manifest themselves in Americans nowadays. On the other hand, it is my understanding that in Thai society, the woman stays home with the children, using her mothering skills all day long. Additionally, as mentioned above in “takes care of you”, if they can take care of the husband, many of these abilities flow over into mothering skills. While my experience with Thai women is more limited than it is with other Asians, my personal understanding is that there is still a strong correlation between the groups. Another possible reason for the Thai woman having the advantage in mothering skills over the westerner is not directly the fault of the western woman as an individual, but the role that the U.S. government has assumed nowadays in raising your fucking children. “Big Brother” is far more involved in raising kids in the U.S. nowadays (thanks to your Hilary Clinton-types) and cases where parents are even jailed for silly crap like smacking their little fucking brat are not uncommon. There is a Gestapo-type agency in the U.S. today called Child Protective Services (CPS) that is doing far more harm than good. While I try not to get overly political or detailed about it here, their original intention of protecting children has morphed into their becoming an overbearing, swaggering bureaucracy that dictates what mothers and fathers can/cannot do in raising their children. I could give at least a few horrifying examples of instances where they abused their power to ruin the lives of some personal friends of mine who have children. One friend even calls them regularly to REQUEST PERMISSION to do certain things!! I was shocked to hear this when she told me. They actually go into public schools today and tell children to dial “911” if their parents strike them. To summarize, this type of interference inhibits both western mothers and fathers from being all they can be, whereas this does not exist in Thailand. While I could not resist getting off on this tangent, if mothering skills is high on your list of requirements, or “nice-to-haves” with the woman of your choice, the Thai lady has the advantage here.
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:09:28 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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H. COMMUNICATION. Communication skills are highly inter-related with intelligence and logic, both of which list the western woman with the advantage. For reasons as simple as the language barrier, the communication skills of the western woman are superior to those of the Thai. In my perception, Thai women tend to think along much more simple lines of reasoning and don’t prefer to strain their brains. They would rather just sit back, relax, and enjoy the moment than engage in a philosophical dialect where you solicit their thoughts and opinions on complicated subject matter (this can be a good thing, of course, depending on your particular preferences). This can also lead to problems in the relationship because things that you thought she knew or understood, you later find out that she had no clue about. When your lines of communication begin to get crossed, there is bound to be a short circuit in the relationship. I have worked with Asian women who even claim to understand exactly what you are instructing/telling them, but if you ask them to repeat what you said, or demonstrate something, they are clueless. Hey, maybe they didn’t want to admit they didn't understand because they thought they were losing face, I don’t know. It has even appeared to me on occasion that they are actually in pain when presented with new information, as if the assimilation of this information is damaging cerebral tissue. Also, Thai culture being what it is, communication problems between falangs and Thai women are a matter of record, with misunderstandings occurring very often as a direct result of the culture differences. The falangs are as much to blame for this as the women, because you could argue that we should know and respect their culture just as they should know ours. If you wish to marry a Thai, it will pay huge dividends to gain a command of the language, as I have currently begun to attempt (it is painful (!), but necessary). After all, why should falangs arrogantly assume that the poor lady is responsible for knowing English while we don’t have to learn Thai?
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:10:01 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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I. CULTURE. As most people probably know, the conflicts between Thai and western culture are very often a source of difficulty between falangs and Thai ladies. Issues such as paying of a dowry, the Thais’ concern with things such as losing face, and many other things can cause a rough ride for the falang who pursues a relationship with a Thai lady. However, I would not consider this deficiency to be too overwhelming. There are some positive elements of Thai culture could partially compensate you and offset the negatives, making her even more attractive a choice than her western counterpart. For instance, if you are an individual who desires a virgin, or even simply a woman that hasn’t “been around” excessively, you might actually have to go to Thailand. Try your luck in finding a western woman under 18 who has kept her knickers on. I’d say you have a snowball’s chance in Hell. Also, the cultural phenomenon of the woman playing a subservient role in the family is now very difficult to find in a western woman. Therefore, it is up to your particular taste. Personally, as far as culture goes, there are definitely some positive points, but I see it as a slight detriment to the Thai lady and something that needs to have the kinks worked out of it. It will likely prove to be most challenging in the early stages of the relationship; say for about the first few years. If you’ve managed to move on that far, chances are that the cultural differences will no longer be an issue once you have become well acquainted. Regarding western women, the U.S. alone is a diverse country. It is a mixture of immigrating races from around the globe, each of which takes their particular culture with them. “Multiculturalism” is a phenomenon that is highly unique to the U.S., so don’t be surprised that when you choose your western woman, you might have some similar cultural obstacles to navigate through. Depending on where you are from in the U.S., people who have immigrated from similar origins back in their “old country” tend to stay together in cliques, at least for a while, thereby retaining many aspects of their inherited culture. There are parts of cities like Philadelphia, NYC, Baltimore, etc., that are almost completely all Irish, all Italian, all German, all black, all Korean, etc., with definite boundaries between them that are not to be crossed. I once went out with a Korean woman when I lived in Hawaii who was actually afraid to introduce me to her friends for fear that they would persecute her for dating a white guy. Anyway, my final conclusion is that the American woman might still have the advantage in this area due to the many challenges presented by Thai culture particularly, but certainly not by a landslide.
â´Â Source [20 Á.¤. 2546 , 19:10:42 ¹.] ( IP = 149.159.3.157 : : )
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J. APPROACHABILITY. Approachability the way I’m using it here could be defined as the level of ease/difficulty you will have in successfully locating, initiating discourse with, and successfully getting the lady to at least go out with you on a date. Read Stick’s site a little and you will see just how approachable the average available Thai lady is. They are really very friendly, and not just the bargirls. At least the ones I have met have never been arrogant or snobbish, and are always quick to smile. A simple smile can be so precious, and makes it all the more easy to break the ice. Hey, if you can’t break through the ice, you can’t get the fish underneath. How many times have you built up the balls to approach some western Ice Princess, and she would not give you the time of day? Some appear as if a smile would crack their faces right down the middle. Even if you succeed in engaging in some conversation, which is admittedly not that difficult for the most part depending on who you are, you may have quite a difficult time in getting a date. Sure, she may give you her phone number, but from my observations, a phone number doesn’t cement the issue anymore. If you give her your card or phone number, you will be very lucky if she calls. I’d say that your chances are about 5-1 against her calling here in the West, whereas I believe your chances are much better in Thailand. Thai ladies are all so inviting. When I sit down to think of it, I cannot actually remember even one occasion where I attempted to engage in friendly chatter with a Thai lady (who was a potential date), and was let down by the end result of the engagement. Even the receptionists, waitresses, ladies in shopping malls, are all so approachable. I can just imagine the success I would be having if I had a command of the language. That would magnify things for you geometrically. The only exception to this might be the case of the bargirl, who might actually prefer a falang who is not “Asianized”, for lack of a better term. They want one fresh off the boat with pockets full of cash. The way they see it, if you speak the language, you’re probably an expat, and consequently offer no chance of getting them out of Thailand and onto the Falangland Gravy Train. Yes, as I was saying, western women today are becoming less and less approachable. Throughout my life, I have personally tried many methods for cracking this egg, from just the normal approach where there are no pretenses, to coming up with silly lines, to just about any ridiculous, bawdy act you could think of. The best approach is always to just be yourself, smile (!), open your eyes wide, think about what you’re doing and saying but keep it simple, and just let it all flow naturally and normally. A mistake that many guys make is that they predominantly talk about themselves in an effort to impress the lady and never ask about her. Get her to talk about herself while you (shut the fuck up and) listen intently and your chances will be multiplied a thousand fold. Trying to put on an air will not impress today’s western woman: they’re savvy enough to see through it. Even more importantly, how long can you maintain such an air? Sooner or later, you’re going to have to “revert back” to being yourself, and then your bubble is going to burst with a loud “kaboom”. I used to do this type of thing in my younger years (say, age 16-26), that is, I used to try and figure out what type of man the woman preferred, and then go about trying to be that person, but after that, my approach has been simply to be myself and let the chips fall where they may. If she doesn’t give me the time of day, there are more fish in the sea. In my opinion, whether you are approaching Thai ladies or western women, this offers your best chance for success.
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